Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Things College Students Like part 1

One of the things that college students tend to like is very long, drug out, opinionated discussions about things they will probably never do anything about. College students have a tendency to get very riled up about things, even things that they have no business getting riled up about due to a lack of understanding of the content of that topic.

I personally have been in the midst of very absurd conversations. One such conversation was with a man who was whole-heartedly against prop 100, which is a proposition to raise taxes by an overwhelming (*sarcasm*) 1 cent increase for a set 3 year span. This bill was designed to battle the horrible failure of the Arizona state government to iron out anything that resembled an organized budget plan which led to a complete failure of Arizona finances. Most importantly, the bill was designed to stabilize some of the most important state services like... oh... i don't know... how about funding to the f***ing schools!

But nope... this man just kept going on and recycling his argument that if the state's f***ed up, they should take responsibility and fix it! Well, Jack, I have news for you.... THATS WHAT PROP 100 WAS SUPPOSED TO DO! What? Can they just magically push a button and fix things? You expect them to cut medicare? Or perhaps you think they should just fire more of the police department than they were already planning to do?

The fact of the matter is, this bill, although tax increases are very unfavorable to everybody, was very necessary to insure that important services don't take a huge hit by the crisis. But somehow, this guy, despite being a college student himself, did not agree. Apparently, he didn't want the schools to get the $107 million the state owes them on top of the other money they've already cut?


This isn't every college student, but it sure seems to happen pretty easily on campus. It's not really all that difficult to find yourself in a ridiculous conversation with a know-it-all that doesn't know what they're actually talking about.

Another example would be that one time, sitting in class waiting for French to start, a guy in my class asked me what my major was, political science, which led to very mild political discussion. Then, I said, "I don't know why people are always so afraid of socialism. Vital services like police enforcement are socialized." At which point, a girl who had barely walked in class and sat down turned around and said, "Actually, it's not socialism; it's nationalism. There's a difference."

At this point, I just kind of went "oh!" despite the fact that she clearly had no idea what she was talking about. Socialism is a system of economics. Nationalism is a word describing national pride and a sort of us vs. them mentality of a country. Nationalism is not an economic system.

I didn't correct her because I already knew how ridiculous it is to argue with someone who thinks they know what they're talking about who doesn't.

I also talked to an Anarchist. College is a breeding ground for these anti-government political nuts. I myself had believed in anarchy for at least a good half a year because it seemed as though no system of government could prevent corruption from destroying prosperity and happiness. However, now, after more political studies, I have come to realize that Anarchy can not work (though it had a good 3-year run in Spain) and that Federalism is actually an excellent system of government.

However, that wasn't even what this argument was about. He was convinced that he should be able to do whatever he wants.... that was it. There wasn't really much else to his argument, and he didn't have anything intelligent to say to my counter-points. He just simply believed that the government, restricting him from doing things like... idk.... driving drunk infringed upon his civil liberties.

I'm not even going to get into that. The argument against that point is so absurdly obvious and so basically essential to any social contract theory, that I don't think that it honestly needs to be explained.

My point is this: there are a lot of very intelligent people in college. There are a lot of great conversationalists who have very intelligent, well-thought-out things to say who can maintain a civil debate while avoiding ridiculous arguments like the ones above. But for every person like this, there are probably three of those above.


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